Over the summer I've been going back and forth and thinking hard about the future of my Lord of the Rings collection. My primary issue is the rule systems for the Middle Earth SBG and the War of the Ring rules. I just fundamentally don't like how they play.
Moreover, I like the aesthetic of wargames to be that of densely packed troops in mass battles. While I certainly dabble in skirmish games (e.g. SAGA) my primary love has always been mass battle games.
I finally made a hard decision. I've already completed my notes for what I'm tentatively calling "Middle Earth Battles (MEB)" which will be my adaptation of rules for fighting massed battles in Middle Earth. I've also decided on an army organization and basing system that will allow me to represent the battles in such a way that I find visually pleasing on the tabletop. For the rules, it is a shift away from shooting dominated foundation into a melee dominated foundation. More to come in a separate post on that front.
- Base size for cavalry - 75mm wide by 50mm deep. Base size for infantry and monsters - 65mm x 50mm.
- Each stand is 6 figures for infantry and 3 figures for cavalry. Monsters are 1 per base (variable base size).
- Units are generally 4 bases, 6 bases (standard size), or 8 bases).
- Heroes are "unit level" or independent. Unit level are essentially a command stand of their troop type. Major heroes move about the battlefield individually.
- Magic and heroes will operate using a modified version of my "command point" system I recently added to my Empires at War rules.
- On a turn when a unit charges melee will be broken into an initial "impact" round of melee, then all subsequent melee is "normal" - but unlike my AWI, ACW and Napoleonic rules, melee can span multiple turns.
Rohan Order of Battle
- Théodred's Royal Guard (Dismounted) - 6 (36 figures)
- Grimbold's Helmingas - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Oathsworn Warriors - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Oathsworn Bowmen - 4 bases (24 figures)
- Oathsworn Bowmen - 4 bases (24 figures)
- Riders of Rohan Éored - 6 bases (18 figures)
- Outriders Éored - 4 bases (12 figures)
- Elfhelm's Éored - 6 bases (18 figures)
- Erkenbrand's Éored - 6 bases (18 figures)
- Riders of Rohan Éored - 6 bases (18 figures)
Isengard Order of Battle
- Uruk-hai Phalanx - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Uruk-hai Phalanx - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Uruk-hai Warband - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Uruk-hai Warband - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Uruk-hai Crossbows - 3 bases (18 figures)
- Uruk-hai Berserkers - 2 bases (12 figures)
- Isengard Troll - 1 base (1 figure)
- Isengard Troll - 1 base (1 figure)
- Dunland Warriors - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Wildmen of Dunland - 4 bases (24 figures)
- Wildmen of Dunland - 4 bases (24 figures)
- Uruk-hai Scout Warband - 6 bases (36 figures)
- Warg Riders - 4 bases (12 figures)
- Warg Riders - 4 bases (12 figures)
- Feral Uruk-hai - 2 bases (12 figures)
A worthwhile project Jay, and one I will follow closely. I've been looking for a set of rules for LoTR. Although my forces are small than yours they are larger than a normal skirmish game. Cheers Greg
ReplyDeleteThanks Greg! Should work for smaller forces just fine :-)
DeleteJay I can recommend taking a look at Infamy Infamy, we have tweaked them for LOTR's and have had some excellent encounters.
ReplyDeletehttp://dusttears.blogspot.com/2020/09/lotr-campaign-battle-1-first-clash.html
Happy to supply my rule tweaks if of interest.
Cheers
Stu
Heya Stu - thanks for the reference. I'll check it out. For me this system will use the same "core" as my systems for AWI, ACW, and Napoleonic's - but always open to checking out new rules :-)
DeleteWhile I'll never (not because I don't love them) collect these myself, I am still excited to see what you do with this. When I've read the books, and the larger battle scene that's what I envision (what your doing). It will be glorious to behold sir!
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Kevin
Thanks Kevin! I've always loved LOTR from the moment I read The Hobbit when I was 9 years old. I've always wanted to play out those battles on the tabletop in proper style ... so here goes :-)
DeleteI like the way you are tieing many of your rule components from all your sets together. It has to be a great memory aid. Maybe someday it will all be rock, paper, scissors for everything!
ReplyDeletelol - thanks Steve --- rock, paper and scissors is better than rolling 1's on D6s :-)
DeleteLooks good, Jay! I'm searching for the perfect LotR rule set as well- it would be Precious to me.
ReplyDeleteThanks and lol - love the reference! Actively putting the sheets together for the rules --- bound to be some typos in v1 but will iterate on it.
DeleteI’m looking forward to seeing this battle played out 👍
ReplyDeleteThanks Matt!
DeleteBrilliant! Another book for Osprey to publish - can't wait to get the entire Jay White box set of rules. 20% off with the code "densely packed troops in mass" 😂
ReplyDeletelol, for you my friend you can have 21% off ;-) lol! I think the code needs to be shorter ... perhaps just "densely packed shit" ... it's memorable if nothing else :-)
DeleteVery interested in seeing this develop. My son and I have modified Dragon Rampant but still are not sold on the flow and mechanics. looking forward to see what you come up with Jay!
ReplyDeleteThanks! Getting close, have a draft done, playtesting starting now.
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